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“Terrorized”: Gaza Poet Mosab Abu Toha on Being Stripped, Jailed & Beaten by Israeli Forces |
"... I made it from the north of Gaza to the south of Gaza, but I was
jailed by the Israeli army. I was trying to cross and reach the Rafah
border crossing. Our names were listed by the American — by the
Department of State, because my youngest son, 3 years and a half, was
born in America. He’s an American citizen. So I was trying to cross from
the north of Gaza, where I spent the past two months, I would say, to
the south of Gaza, where Rafah is, and where we were advised to go. But
at the checkpoint, I was picked by the Israeli army, along with about
200 other people. I was picked by the Israeli soldier. He called me by
describing me. He said, “The man with the black backpack and the
red-haired boy, put the boy down and let him go, and come to me.” So, I
mean, I took our passports, my son’s and also my wife’s and two other
children, thinking that I would show the passports and also my American
son to them, so that they would just let us go. But I was surprised,
because he ordered me, very aggressively, to put the son down and come
to join the queue of other people who were kidnapped with me.
I mean, there was a young — a younger man. He was so scared, and he
said, “I wanted my mother. I want to be with my mom. Oh, my mom, come
help me,” etc. I tried to calm him down, telling him, “Oh, don’t worry.
Maybe they are going to ask us some question, and then we would go.” But
that was not the case.
I was then summoned by another Israeli soldier who was sitting next
to another soldier who was pointing his gun at us. They asked us to
recite our names and our ID numbers, and then I was led to another
Israeli Jeep, in front of whom — I mean, there were three Israelis
soldiers — I was forced to take off all my clothes. I just took off my
pants and my shirt, etc., and I kept my boxer shorts on. But I was
surprised when they asked me to just also take off my boxer shorts. So I
was naked. And I felt humiliated. I felt terrified and terrorized by
this army, because they were ordering us to do everything at gunpoint.
And then I was beaten in my face. I was beaten in my stomach. And I
still have pain in my face.
And later, I realized they were taking us to Bir As-Saba, or Be’er
Sheva, about two hours away from Gaza, without knowing what they were
going to do to us. I had little clothes to warm my body during the cold
weather. And so, I mean, they took me for interrogation, and I did tell
them all my story. And I wasn’t aware that the whole world, especially
in America, were just writing about me and asking for my release. I
think this was one reason — I mean, I didn’t do anything in my life; I
didn’t harm any person, although I lived under occupation all my life.
And I was wounded when I was 16. I got a piece of shrapnel just a few
centimeters away from my windpipe, so I was harmed. My house was bombed.
But I myself didn’t harm anyone. But I was harmed again. And I am still
harmed by the fact that my family and my neighbors are still in Gaza.
And the last time I was in touch with my mother and my sisters and also
my brothers and their children was five days ago, the same day I left
Gaza. So I have no single piece of news whether they are alive or dead.
NERMEEN SHAIKH:
So, Mosab, I’d like to ask you — I mean, of course, you mentioned very
soon after you arrived in Egypt that you remain very, very concerned
because your parents and your siblings are in Gaza. You have not been
able to reach them for five days. Are you able to reach others in Gaza?
I’d just like to read very briefly what a leading military analyst from
the U.S. has said, drawing an analogy between the Second World War’s
bombardment of German cities like Dresden and Cologne and the
contemporary present bombardment of Gaza by Israel. This is Robert Pape,
writing, “Dresden, Hamburg, Cologne — some of the world’s heaviest-ever
bombings are remembered by their place names. Gaza will also go down as
a place name denoting one of history’s heaviest conventional bombing
campaigns.” So, Mosab, if you could talk about that and what you know
now about what’s going on in Gaza since you left?
MOSAB ABU TOHA:
Well, I mean, the situation, I think, is different than the other place
names that you mentioned. For your information and your respected
audience, I still have friends whose houses were bombed a few weeks ago
and whose bodies are still not retrieved. And I wrote in one of my posts
that not only are Gazans, are we and Gazans concerned about being
killed under the rubble of our house, but also of being — maybe of being
alive under the rubble and no one coming to rescue us. So, there are no
fire trucks. There are no civil defense staff. There is no fuel. There
are no equipment — there is no equipment to retrieve the bodies of those
who might be still alive under the bombing of their house — after the
bombing of their houses. So I don’t think Gaza could be compared to any
other place on Earth.
And now with social media and all the world watching us, I mean, it’s
different from maybe Second World War. I mean, people would hear the
news of the bombing of a house or something maybe later. But people are
just watching us live, and no one can step in to stop their carnage, the
genocide that is committed against my family, my neighbors, my friends,
my students, my fellow writers and artists.... " READ MORE or Listen to the Interview in full
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