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Saturday, June 21, 2014

"I advocate a two-state solution, based upon the pre-1967 borders, that includes recognition of the plight of, and redress for, the refugees from 1948, and also guarantees equal rights under law for all citizens of the region, whatever their religion or ethnic background..." The Rolling Stones and Tel Aviv: EXCELLENT letter by Roger Waters (of Pink Flyod) in the NYTimes


 Roger Waters
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/18/opinion/the-rolling-stones-and-tel-aviv.html
Re “Let it bleed” (June 10): Roger Cohen struggles in his column with a tangled web of his own making. He supports two objectives of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement: the end of the occupation and the recognition of equal rights for Palestinian citizens of Israel. Yet he rejects the third objective: the right of refugees to return. His acceptance of the legitimacy of B.D.S. demands for equal rights for Palestinian citizens of Israel is a tacit admission that Israel is a racist and apartheid state that has different laws for citizens of different ethnic and religious groups.

As for apartheid in the occupied territories, we need not repeat, ad nauseam, descriptions of the wall, the checkpoints and the settlements and roads intended only for Jewish settlers. The fact is the occupying Israeli Army subjugates an indigenous population by using lethal force, including the murder of unarmed children, as Human Rights Watch reported recently.

I won’t lower myself to answer the slur of anti-Semitism yet again. But it is spurious and a smokescreen. It is a charge that should be reserved for extremist bigots; not thinking people who believe in equal rights for all, including Jews and Palestinians.

I advocate a two-state solution, based upon the pre-1967 borders, that includes recognition of the plight of, and redress for, the refugees from 1948, and also guarantees equal rights under law for all citizens of the region, whatever their religion or ethnic background.

The Israeli government has repeatedly rejected such a course. That is why I support B.D.S., a nonviolent global movement vital to applying pressure on this settlement- and occupation-hungry government.

“To stand by silent and indifferent is the greatest sin of all.”

That is why Nick Mason and I protested the Rolling Stones’ gig in Tel Aviv. Their crossing of the picket line was, willy-nilly, an endorsement of the occupation. We will not stand silently by.

I would like to ask Mr. Cohen and his J Street friends what they would propose as an alternative to B.D.S. to encourage the Israeli government to change its reckless course?

Roger Waters, New York
The writer is one of the founding members of Pink Floyd.

Friday, June 13, 2014

My letter to the NYTimes RE Let It Bleed by Roger Cohen

The Rolling Stones -- Doom And Gloom (Lyric Video)

 Rolling Stones & Roger Cohen (comfortably numb)
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Roger Waters & Free Thinkers every where advocating compassion and peace with the rule of fair and just laws and full respect for universal human rights (The truth will set us free...We Shall Overcome (for Palestine))
 
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RE Let It Bleed by Roger Cohen
 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/10/opinion/cohen-let-it-bleed.html?ref=opinion

Dear Editor,

But for Roger Waters and Nick Mason, founding members of Pink Floyd, wisely (and courageously) using their fame to help draw serious international attention to the very real plight of the Palestinians, New York Times columnist Roger Cohen would not have bothered to write a column about Israeli “apartheid”... and the mainstream marketplace of ideas would have less food for thought regarding ending the Israel-Palestine conflict with a just and lasting peace.

Boycott boycott and BDS if you want, boycott J-Street & AIPAC, boycott cute kitten videos too if you want- but realize that there is a big world out there beyond the echo chambers, and most people are able to research and think for themselves- and come to their own conclusions. 

Whatever Zionism and Israeli Jewishness was supposed to mean when Israel was officially established in 1948, obviously something has gone very very wrong:  Right now Israel's supposed Jewishness is an economic advantage and an ego trip for people who are Jewish, but for the native non-Jewish men, women and children of the Holy Land it is a nightmare - and a lie. 

In 1948, in response to what we now know was only the beginning of a massive and ongoing displacement of Palestinians, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 194, which points out quite clearly in paragraph 11 that "…the [Palestinian] refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date"

The fight for the right of return of all Palestinian refugees is about keeping future communities and work places and history books and tourist attractions worldwide honest and inclusive.  What is good for the goose- is good for the gander.

The fight for the right of return of all Palestinian refugees is a fight for the rule of fair and just laws, and universal basic human rights... and honoring the idea that home and family matter, as does personal choice.  Refugees should not be forced to return.

The return of all Palestinian refugees, with many Palestinians opting to relocate and invest their talents into building a sovereign Palestinian state living alongside Israel in peace and security, will not be the end of Israel, nor will it be the end of the Jewish People.

What is needed in the Holy Land is indeed very simple — real justice shaping two states for two peoples. One called Israel and one called Palestine.  What is needed is a fully secular two state end to the Israel-Palestine conflict firmly based on FULL respect for international law and universal basic human rights- including but not limited to the Palestinian refugees inalienable right to return to original homes and lands to live in peace.

Sincerely,
Anne Selden Annab

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Monday, March 17, 2014

Roger Waters: Why I must speak out on Israel, Palestine and BDS


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Roger Waters: Why I must speak out on Israel, Palestine and BDS

Salon exclusive: The Pink Floyd star details why he supports the boycott


Seventy years ago, my father – 2nd Lt. Eric Fletcher Waters – died in Italy fighting the Nazis. He was a committed pacifist, and a conscientious objector at the start of the war, but as Hitler’s crimes spread across Europe, he swapped the ambulance he had driven through the London blitz for a tin hat and a commission in the Royal Fusiliers and he joined the fight against fascism. He was killed near Aprilia in the battle for the Anzio Bridgehead on Feb. 18, 1944.  My mother – Mary Duncan Waters – spent the rest of her life politically active, striving always to ensure that her children, and everyone else’s children, had no Sword of Damocles in the form of the despised Nazi Creed or any other despicable creed hanging over their heads.

Last month, thanks to the good people of Aprilia and Anzio, I was able to pay tribute to the father I never knew by unveiling a memorial in the town where he died and laying a wreath to honor him, and all the other fallen. Losing my father before I ever knew him and being brought up by a single, working mother who fought tirelessly for equality and justice colored my life in far-reaching ways and has driven all my work. And, at this point in my journey, I like to think that I pay tribute to both my parents each time I speak out in support of any beleaguered people denied the freedom and justice that I believe all of us deserve.

After visiting Israel in 2005 and the West Bank the following year, I was deeply moved and concerned by what I saw, and determined to add my voice to those searching for an equitable and lawful solution to the problem – for both Palestinians and Jews.

Given my upbringing, I really had no choice.

In 2005, Palestinian civil society appealed to people of conscience all over the world to act where governments had failed. They asked us to join their nonviolent movement – for Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) – which aims to end Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian territories, to secure equal rights for Palestinian citizens of Israel, and to uphold the right of Palestinian refugees to return to the cities and villages they were violently forced out of in 1948 and 1967.

After more than two decades of negotiations, the vulnerable Palestinian population still lives under occupation, while more land is taken, more illegal settlements built, and more Palestinians are imprisoned, injured or killed struggling for the right to live in dignity and peace, to raise their families, to till their land, to aspire to each and every human goal, just like the rest of us. The Palestinians’ prolonged statelessness has made them among the most vulnerable of all peoples, particularly in their diaspora where, as now in Syria, they are subject, as stateless, powerless refugees, to targeted violence, from all sides in that bloody conflict, subject to unimaginable hardship and  deprivation and, in many cases, particularly for the vulnerable young, to starvation.   

What can we all do to advance the rights of Palestinians in the occupied territories, Israel and the diaspora? Well, BDS is a nonviolent, citizen-led movement that is grounded in universal principles of human rights for all people. All people! In consequence, I have determined that the BDS approach is one I can fully support.

I feel honored to stand in solidarity alongside my father and my mother, and alongside my Palestinian brothers and sisters, and so many others of all colors, faiths and circumstances from all over the world – including an ever-increasing number of courageous Jewish Americans and Israelis – who have also answered the call.

In the furor that exists in the U.S. today about BDS and the right and wrong of a cultural boycott of Israel, a quote from one of my heroes, Mahatma Gandhi, has been on my mind. He prophetically said, “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”  The BDS movement is fulfilling its promise and fits Gandhi’s description.  Once dismissed by many as a futile strategy that would “never work,” BDS has gained much ground in recent weeks, bringing with it the expected backlash.

Divestment votes at major U.S. universities, European pension funds divesting from Israeli banks that do business with illegal Israeli settlements, and the recent high-profile parting of the ways between actor Scarlett Johansson and the global anti-poverty group Oxfam are symptoms of a growing resistance to the Israeli subjugation of the indigenous people of Palestine, and also, to the decades of occupation of land designated by the U.N. as a future state for the Palestinian people.

And with each new BDS headline, the ferocious reaction from the movement’s critics, with Netanyahu and his AIPAC fulminations in the vanguard, has risen exponentially.  I think it’s safe to say BDS is in the “then they fight you” stage.

Some wrongly portray the boycott movement, which is modeled on the boycotts employed against Apartheid South Africa and used in the U.S. civil rights movement, to be an attack on the Israeli people or even on the Jewish people, as a whole. Nothing could be further from the truth. The movement recognizes universal human rights under the law for all people, regardless of their ethnicity, religion or color.

I do not claim to speak on behalf of the BDS movement, yet, as a vocal supporter, and because of my visibility in the music industry, I have become a natural target for those who wish to attack BDS, not by addressing the merits of its claims but, instead, by assigning hateful and racist motivations to BDS supporters like me. It has even been said, cruelly and wrongly, that I am a Nazi and an anti-Semite.

When I remarked in a recent interview on historical parallels, stating that I would not have played Vichy France or Berlin in World War II, it was not my intention to compare the Israelis to Nazis or the Holocaust to the decades-long oppression of the Palestinians.  There is no comparison to the Holocaust.  Nor did I intend or ever wish to compare the suffering of Jews then with the suffering of Palestinians now.  Comparing suffering is a painful, grotesque and diminishing exercise that dishonors the specific memory of all our fallen loved ones.

I believe that the root of all injustice and oppression has always been the same – the dehumanization of the other. It is the obsession with Us and Them that can lead us, regardless of racial or religious identity, into the abyss.

Let us never forget that oppression begets more oppression, and the tree of fear and bigotry bears only bitter fruit. The end of the occupation of Palestine, should we all manage to secure it, will mean freedom for the occupied and the occupiers and freedom from the bitter taste of all those wasted years and lives. And that will be a great gift to the world.

“Ashes and diamonds
Foe and friend
We were all equal
In the end.”


Tuesday, December 17, 2013

My letters to the NYTimes & the Guardian RE Boycott by Academic Group Is a Symbolic Sting to Israel & Roger Waters and the antisemitism question

ROGER WATERS Photograph: Torben Christensen/AFP/Getty Images
RE "Roger Waters and the antisemitism question- The Pink Floyd singer is certainly guilty of talking about Israel in a predictable and unhelpful way" by
 http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/16/roger-waters-antisemitism-unhelpful

Dear Editor,

KUDOS to Roger Waters for noticing the very real plight of the Palestinians, and stepping up to do what he can to help being peace and justice to the Holy Land by raising awareness.

I do agree with Keith Kahn-Harris that "There is something about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that sucks people in and brings out the worst in them."... but I think it is obvious that the worst of the worst is being done by Islamists and by Israeli politicians and bigots who want the land but not the native non-Jewish population of that land.

A fully secular two state solution in 2014 to once and for all end the Israel-Palestine conflict for everyone's sake won't stop people steeped in stories about the Nazis and the Holocaust from deploying the word Nazi to explain what they mean in various situations (like Seinfeld & the Soup Nazi)... but it might help keep the word "Zionist" from being officially defined as something much much worse than Nazi.

In a post 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights & a post Martin Luther King Jr world with the global information age, history is bound to judge us all in a very different light.

Sincerely,
Anne Selden Annab

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RE: Boycott by Academic Group Is a Symbolic Sting to Israel
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/17/education/scholars-group-endorses-an-academic-boycott-of-israel.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131217&_r=0

Dear Editor,

"The American Studies Association resolution bars official collaboration with Israeli institutions but not with Israeli scholars themselves." Sounds more like a semi-boycott, or a partial boycott.... and yes indeed a very "symbolic" sting.

Israel's publicity aware ambassador to the United States firmly objects, claiming that Israel is "the sole democracy in the Middle East, in which academics are free to say what they want, write what they want and research what they want”...  I think it is becoming increasing obvious that there is nothing democratic about Israel's obsession with being Jewish, and that as things are today there is very little freedom or justice for the native non-Jewish people of historic Palestine.

As things are today a one state scenario entrenches sovereign Israel's investments in Jews-preferred housing projects and religious scholars and schemes- further oppressing, displacing and disenfranchising the Palestinians in official as well as unofficial ways. 

A fully secular two state end to the Israel-Palestine conflict would go a long way towards eliminating the religious extremism, bigotry, injustice, corruption, cruelty and refugee crises created by the Israel-Palestine conflict. 

Sincerely,
Anne Selden Annab

 NOTES

  • All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
The Golden Rule... Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

The Office of International Religious Freedom ( http://www.state.gov/j/drl/irf/)   Given the U.S. commitment to religious freedom, and to the international covenants that guarantee it as the inalienable right of every human being, the United States seeks to:
 
Promote freedom of religion and conscience throughout the world as a fundamental human right and as a source of stability for all countries



Tuesday, December 3, 2013

Now that his three-year world tour for "The Wall" has finally come to an end, Roger Waters wants to set the record straight over criticism he's received from Jewish groups regarding his use of the Star of David symbol in the show and his support for a cultural boycott of Israel.

In its three-year span, "The Wall" show went on to become the highest grossing tour of all time by a solo artist. Waters next stop is the Broadway musical version, which begins workshops in January....
In this April 1, 2011 file photo, Roger Waters performs during his "The Wall Tour 2010/2011" in Milan, Italy. Now that his three-year world tour for “The Wall” has finally come to an end, Waters wants to set the record straight over criticism he’s received from Jewish groups regarding his use of the Star of David symbol in the show and his support for a cultural boycott of Israel. (AP Photo/Antonio Calanni, File)

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Monday, Dec. 2, 2013

Rogers Waters defends use of religious symbolism

By JOHN CARUCCI
The Associated Press
NEW YORK — 

Now that his three-year world tour for "The Wall" has finally come to an end, Roger Waters wants to set the record straight over criticism he's received from Jewish groups regarding his use of the Star of David symbol in the show and his support for a cultural boycott of Israel.

The 70-year old Pink Floyd co-founder says his intention was never to offend the Jewish people. "I worry about it every day. It's a huge concern to me that I would be considered to be a bully," Waters says.

The controversy began with the use of the Star of David, which appears on Israel's flag and is a symbol of its government, in the show as one of the animated symbols dropped from a fighter jet during the song "Goodbye Blue Sky." Other symbols included a crucifix, crescent moon, and the U.S. dollar sign.

"'Goodbye Blue Sky' is all about and how I feel about the fields of the earth being bathed in blood because we're so determined to bombard our fellow man with our bit of ideology, or our bit of this, or our religion, and some took issue with that," Waters says.

Waters communicated with Anti-Defamation League national director Abraham Foxman and the rocker agreed to move the Stars of David further away from the dollar signs...READ MORE

Wednesday, July 4, 2012

Divestment question before Presbyterians: Firms connected to West Bank dispute would not get funds

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http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-city/divestment-question-before-presbyterians-643251/#ixzz1zgOsqgQw
In a closely watched vote that followed a day of intense deliberations, the Committee on Middle East and Peacemaking Issues of the Presbyterian Church (USA) General Assembly approved a resolution Tuesday morning to divest from companies whose products are used by Israel to enforce occupation of the West Bank. The vote was 36 in favor, 11 opposed, and one abstention.
The resolution recommends that the church divest from Caterpillar, Motorola Solutions and Hewlett-Packard after an eight-year corporate engagement process yielded no reforms.
The general church body will vote on the resolution this week.

According to Brian Ellison, chair of the Mission Responsibility Through Investment committee, Hewlett-Packard sells hardware used by Israel in its naval blockade of Gaza; Motorola Solutions supplies surveillance technology to Israeli settlements; and Caterpillar provides bulldozers that raze Palestinian homes.

Jim Dugan, a spokesman for Caterpillar, wrote in an email that Caterpillar does not sell machines directly to Israel, but rather through the U.S. Foreign Military Sales Program.

The vote came after a long day Monday during which committee members heard impassioned testimony from American Jews, Arab Christians and Presbyterians. Supporters of divestment said that Christian values compelled them not to invest in companies that profit from an unjust occupation....READ MORE


Waters performing "Comfortably Numb" during The Wall Live in Kansas City, 30 October 2010

Roger Waters,  founding member of the British rock band Pink Floyd: "The waters of this debate will inevitably be muddied, as they always are, by erroneous accusations of anti-Semitism leveled at those who favor selective divestment from companies complicit in Israel's long record of human rights violations. I urge the Presbyterians assembled in Pittsburgh not to be intimidated, but to stand confident with the support of people of conscience everywhere, including tens of thousands of Jewish Americans who support divestment as an ethical obligation to end complicity in the occupation. I urge Presbyterians to adopt their selective divestment motion to make the price of collusion in human rights violations higher, and to send a message of hope to the Palestinian people under Israeli occupation and apartheid."  Presbyterians should support Palestinian aspirations

Wednesday, June 22, 2011

Roger Waters applauds Dave Randall and Maxi Jazz, and all the other musicians who came together to record 'Freedom for Palestine'

A note from Roger - June 21, 2011

by Roger Waters The Wall on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 at 8:48pm

A note from me to all my friends on Facebook. I have been contacted by "The Russell Tribunal on Palestine" and asked to share a link with you all. The link http://www.freedomoneworld.com/ will direct you to a new video of a song called "Freedom for Palestine". My position on Palestine is well known and I have already given my endorsement to these guys in other forums. I repeat it here:

"I applaud Dave Randall and Maxi Jazz, and all the other musicians who came together to record 'Freedom for Palestine'. I fully share, and endorse, the sentiments they express in their song, more power to them and to all who stand together in the fight for a free Palestine . We shall overcome."

However, in addition, I would urge any of you who are interested in the Israel/Palestine question and its legal and moral ramifications also to visit http://www.russelltribunalonpalestine.com/

The Russell Tribunal is a truly thought provoking and uplifting initiative that is largely ignored by the mainstream media. Check it out.

Love Roger